Sergio Moro during EXAMINATION Forum 2015 (Hector Feitosa / SEE)
Federal Judge Sergio Moro, responsible for the criminal actions of Operation Lava jet, said on Monday that Brazil "has lost its dignity", facing a systemic corruption framework gaping by billionaire scheme of resource gaps that settled in Petrobras . "We lost dignity. It is difficult to look at ourselves in the mirror, before the international community, facing a systemic corruption framework," said Moro Exam Forum 2015, held in Sao Paulo by Exame magazine, published by Editora Abril, which also publishes SEE.
Moro, who was strongly applauded by more than once said that in the case of Lava jet, more "scary" than the corruption itself - which he said will always occur - is the naturalization of the payment of bribes. In addition to direct costs, such as the recognition of R $ 6 billion in deviations Petrobras, there are indirect costs, such as interference from public and private actors in economic planning."Addressing systemic corruption will bring significant gains to all:. Businesses, and the economy in general The cost of systemic corruption is extraordinary," he said, citing the case of refinery Abreu e Lima, in Pernambuco, which should cause a loss 2 billion to Petrobras.
The magistrate said that corruption makes the country "walk back". For the judge, the white-collar crimes take the confidence of market participants in fair competition and the public and private institutions in the laws. "After all, we are a government of laws or a government of men? The law applies to everyone or not ?, asked.
Commenting on the wave of protests against the federal government in the country, Moro said that we need to seize the moment when people leave consumers condition to become citizens. "This moment is very rare Although the economic situation is bad there is hope -. Since we do not acomodemos" he said.
The judge also rejected the argument contractors of defense lawyers arrested in Lava jet and said that prisons enacted throughout the operation are an ever certiorari because the "rule is that the suspect can only be punished after being tried". "What I understand is that what exists [in Lava Jet] are evidence of systemic corruption framework, in which case it is necessary to stop the bleeding from the public purse. And the courts have ruled that way, which makes me in a position of comfort, "he said.
Cleaners - Moro said "it is not against agreements" so that companies can once again have contracts with the public sector, but said that they need to follow rules and to provide the cooperation of the companies. According to the judge, contractors must commit to ending corruption, to disclose all previous history facts and indemnify the government throughout its length. He also charged that companies exchange their command positions. "Can not proceed with agreements with the same leaders they were when there was corruption. It is necessary that the company make an internal housecleaning" he said.
Live declined to comment on the measures it takes to keep your personal safety and the fear of retaliation. The magistrate took off audience laughter by saying that "for security reasons, do not talk about security." He also said he does not feel comfortable answering the Lava Jet reach "the top" of national power.